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Biggest/Smallest possible Boohan/Vegetto gap
Topic Started: Dec 17 2014, 07:16 AM (967 Views)
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I'm thinking like 1.5x-5x, anything above or below doesn't seem right, thoughts?
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3x gap
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I'm not sure. There's no real wrong answer unless you can somehow justify Base Vegetto being multiple times stronger than Boohan and still choosing to transform.
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Depends on your multiplier for Super Saiyan this late in the manga, and for fusion characters in general.

If I was to follow the official 50 times boost, Vegetto ends up tens of times stronger than Boohan. If I follow a 10 times boost, Vegetto is 8-10 times stronger.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The fact that even Vegetto himself was surprised at the way he was making of mockery of Boo pretty indicates that even he wasn't expecting the gap to be as big as it was. Unless you have a an extremely low SSJ multiplier, there's no way you can have something like Base Vegetto near Boohan and then have Vegetto be surprised he's kicking Boo's tail once he transforms.

Vegetto could be 2x stronger or so and still do exactly what he did to Boohan as he did. Sometimes I"m nice and I give a lot more such as a 10x advantage but usually I put in about a 5x difference just for my own sake I think. But I can't give Vegetto some insane 30-40x gap or something, not with what's stated in the manga. It just doesn't fit with the idea that Vegetto himself was surprised at the gap as well. Which is why I often believe that the rivalry boost helped push it along. It's not like anyone told them being rivals would help the fusion as well.

I think that Vegetto knew he'd have a significant, one might say even overwhelming advantage once he transformed, after all he knew he needed to push all options out of Boo, but I think that rivalry boost helped to push his power beyond even his perspective at the time.
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I might be in the minority on this, but I don't believe Vegetto was at Full Power at all. The fact that the Super Saiyans show even in the Boo arc that they still power up, I think it only makes sense that Vegetto is made from two Saiyans who have Mastered SS Vegetto should have the same control.

However, even if he was at Full Power Vegeta had a massive lead on Ultimate Boo and wasn't in the least bit worried about him.
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Vegito was using his legs to block Boohan's attacks. That's like Freeza against Goku in twice gap. Candy
Vegito Also was able to move and retain all of his power to dominate the fight.
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Dec 17 2014, 11:27 AM
The fact that even Vegetto himself was surprised at the way he was making of mockery of Boo pretty indicates that even he wasn't expecting the gap to be as big as it was. Unless you have a an extremely low SSJ multiplier, there's no way you can have something like Base Vegetto near Boohan and then have Vegetto be surprised he's kicking Boo's tail once he transforms.

Vegetto could be 2x stronger or so and still do exactly what he did to Boohan as he did. Sometimes I"m nice and I give a lot more such as a 10x advantage but usually I put in about a 5x difference just for my own sake I think. But I can't give Vegetto some insane 30-40x gap or something, not with what's stated in the manga. It just doesn't fit with the idea that Vegetto himself was surprised at the gap as well. Which is why I often believe that the rivalry boost helped push it along. It's not like anyone told them being rivals would help the fusion as well.

I think that Vegetto knew he'd have a significant, one might say even overwhelming advantage once he transformed, after all he knew he needed to push all options out of Boo, but I think that rivalry boost helped to push his power beyond even his perspective at the time.
It's not only that, but during the fight we can observe Super Saiyan Vegetto putting noticeable effort into his attacks and defenses at time. Such instances include:

- when he deflected Boo's first ki beam (gritting his teeth with a "serious" face on).
- when he grabbed Boo by the leg and tossed him into the rocks (again we can see a serious expression while he's yelling).

He had his aura up until shortly after that, when he took it down after blasting Boo to bits.

He decided to evade the Kamikaze Ghost Attacks instead of taking them head-on, which doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have survived had they come into contact with him, but it should still be considered due to him citing the fact that the attack didn't succeed because it was childish, not because it wouldn't have harmed him, implying if it was more intricate and less straight-forward it might've been a problem.

In a matter of straight-up combat, Vegetto had no problem tooling Boo, even with his feet alone. He didn't have an aura up while he was doing this, seemingly smiling in one panel (though the detail isn't all that great).

The fight showed to me that Vegetto certainly had an impressive gap. It didn't show to me anything warranting him being several times as strong as Boo, not when he showed effort in some of his attacks.
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This might be just the way I took it, but I saw it as Vegetto playing it safe as in just in case... due to his plan and the off chance that the Fusion wouldn't be enough.
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I believe Vegito was so surprised is because Goku was still expecting to be somewhere near a Gogeta in strength. In my oppinion, Gogeta as a SSJ would be enough to not get killed by Buuhan and find how much of a difference there was between the two like Goku vs Cell warming up or SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu.

Vegito came and started dominating however which is why he was so shocked. As for the gap I believe this was the third biggest gap in the series fight only behind Gohan SSJ2 vs Cell and 50% Frieza vs Goku.
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I think you're reading way to much into it Pyrus.
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Dec 17 2014, 01:01 PM
I think you're reading way to much into it Pyrus.
That's what we do in these discussions.
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Vegito being shocked about his power was just because he wanted to tell Boohan about Bad news that's all.
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The smallest gap possible is likely 3x or 4x.

For instance, Base Vegetto could be weaker then Buutenks and still wind up at the 4x range in comparison to Boohan as a Super Saiyan.

Just low you're SSjin multiplier to 5.
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Dec 17 2014, 01:01 PM
I think you're reading way to much into it Pyrus.
I completely disagree with that.

Analyzing the scans dictate analyzing the feats.

It's definitely true, Vegetto at least exerted some form of effort against Boohan. When he tossed Boohan into the ground he was screaming with effort.
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